Talk:Megadeth

Members section

I removed the timeline and the incomplete Former Members list because with a page dedicated to that information, it seemed redundant. My edit was reverted and apparently I have to get permission here? Anyway, does anyone agree that we don't need the information in two places? Crispy385 (talk) 07:24, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes definitely. That would be the commonly accepted practice. DLManiac (talk) 20:30, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Influences and style

the 4th paragraph of this section starts with: "During the band's early days, Mustaine was the rhythm guitarist, while Chris Poland played lead." This is wrong, Poland only plays solo's on 3 out of the 8 songs on their debut album Killing Is My Business all the other solo work is done by Mustaine, There is actually only 1 original song that doesn't feature a solo from Mustaine, and These Boots was also all Poland. Megadeth has always had lead/rhythm - lead/rhythm.

de third paragraph says: "Most of the songs are recorded in standard guitar tuning as Mustaine believes it to provide a superior melody to alternative methods of tuning" maybe add in something like all though the first albums were tuned slightly different so nobody could exactly copy it. this actually was the deal with at least the first 2 albums.

hope I could help, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.210.117.83 (talk) 20:00, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Admin request - Wikidata link editing

Can someone edit the links in this article? The Swedish version was demoted from FA a long time ago. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 18:40, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Albums sold

This source states Megadeth has sold close to 50 million albums. What's the truth? --HeadsOff (talk) 18:19, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

I repeat: why is this article full-protected?

The issue came entirely from IP editors. There was a solution available that didn't involve revoking access to perfectly suitable editors like myself. Like, I don't know, semi-protection? dannymusiceditor ^oops 16:17, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I'm not disagreeing, but I don't know why we're discussing it here when the only person who could definitively tell us why the article was full-protected instead of semi-protected (a decision which I, too, am baffled about) was the admin who protected it in the first place – in other words, ask Anarchyte. 4TheWynne (talk • contribs) 23:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

@DannyMusicEditor and 4TheWynne: It takes two to edit war, and as protection should not favour a certain editor it would have been incorrect to use semi. Apologies for the delayed response. Anarchyte (talk) 07:34, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Edit request (22 September 2021)

Add |small=yes to the protection template. Kleinpecan (talk) 02:39, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done this is not how it works. You do not get to request editing perms to edit the page yourself. Sorry. dannymusiceditor ^oops 02:41, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

I only asked for the |small=yes parameter to be added to the protection template so that it only shows as a padlock icon and not a giant banner that the average reader does not care about. Kleinpecan (talk) 02:44, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Oh. Not gonna lie, I thought that was default text left there carelessly by someone who wanted edit permissions. dannymusiceditor ^oops 02:46, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

(Non-administrator comment)  Not done Moot since page is no longer protected. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:13, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Adding James Lomenzo to Members

James Lomenzo appears on a STUDIO TRACK as of April 1st, 2022. He should be back in the official members now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoxxyBoy (talk • contribs) 16:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

BoxxyBoy, even if that were true, stop drawing conclusions based off one small detail (which you haven't presented a source for) – Megadeth hasn't announced LoMenzo as a full member of the band, so until that happens, no, he shouldn't. 4TheWynne (talk • contribs) 00:06, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Here's a preview of what it could look like (and with sources!)

Current members

• Dave Mustaine – guitars, lead vocals (1983–2002, 2004–present)
• Kiko Loureiro – guitars, backing vocals (2015–present)
• Dirk Verbeuren – drums (2016–present)
• James Lomenzo - bass, backing vocals (2005-2010, 2021-present)

BoxxyBoy (talk) 02:17, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

References

Accurate album sales

dallas observer, fox news radio, and other inaccurate sources have numbers for album sales from 10 million to over 50 million. you can’t look for some local news media that doesn’t use sources for a number to exalt your favorite metal band.

RIAA is a legit source. According to them they have sold slightly under 10 million albums. I added an edit using that source and estimating for sales of singles to be “over 10 million” . This is at least more accurate than the figure has been in years. Someone else with more enthusiasm can be precise.

Again, you wouldn’t use a tabloid for medical information as you wouldn’t use fox news radio for music industry info. Try media outlets with credibility like wall street journal or music industry sources like RIAA. 2600:1012:B1B6:5947:81DF:E40F:C778:C218 (talk) 10:00, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

You have not capture the full picture for album sales.

RIAA is certification, and does not give the full picture. Any album not reaching GOLD status (500k sold) will not be counted. So all Megadeth albums selling less than 500k in the USA (KIMB, Risk, TWNAH, TSHF, UA, Endgame, 13, Dystopia, all the greatest hits albums, all the live albums) will not factor into the numbers. Also, any album which has sold more than 500k but hasn't hit the next certification will not be counted.... for example, Countdown has sold over 2.5 million, but has the double platinum certification and won't be recertified until reaching 3 million, so the sales above 2 million are not counted. Due to not including this, you are discounting millions of album sales.

Furthermore, you are only looking at USA sales. Depending on the band, worldwide sales can double or sometimes triple a bands album sales. Megadeth are a world successful band (shown by charting in many countries and touring in them).

You really should not be using RIAA certification alone to inform the total number of album sales for Megadeth. 2A02:C7C:41D:3000:7D53:C28B:573:2EE8 (talk) 17:05, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

I am not missing the full picture. Again, Fox News Sports radio is not a valid source for album sales especially when they don’t provide any source for that figure. And your justification for 10 million as reported by RIAA to being 50 MILLION is the few hundred thousand copies it goes over gold/platinum and worldwide sales? Megadeath was most popular in America like virtually every American metal band. It is absurd to believe they sold three times as many records outside of America i.e. 30 million. Bands much more successful than megadeath with many times more certifications don’t do that well outside of their country. Again, it’s obvious megadeath has a rabid overly devoted fanbase willing to manipulate facts in order to exalt their band that they worship. I can’t find any valid sources that even suggests its possible let alone true they have even sold half of that absurd 50 million figure. If you understand the music industry and how rock bands normally do, 50 million is an extraordinarily figure and would be more widely reported but more than likely its not accurate. Shhsbavavaa (talk) 10:37, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Albums sales source should be RIAA, soundscan, NOT a sports radio station and fox news no less

megadeth has not even sold half of the figure their wiki asserts. Its a ridiculous and embarrassing over-exaggerating by an overzealous fan or a megadeth manager. Fox news radio is NOT A LEGITIMATE SOURCE FOR MUSIC INDUSTRY. Media makes errors all the time and fox news particularly is known for its lack of journalistic ethics and fox sports radio no less as a source for music industry figures? They probably interviewed davids agent and he gave them that ridiculous figure.

I used RIAA official certifications which even includes digital downloads! Megadeth really sold less than ten million records I am still be generous in saying over 10 million to appease the freaks that stalk this page. More importantly its a legitimate source and a rational same figure. 2600:1012:B1C5:43AD:15F1:E461:6E99:9340 (talk) 08:45, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

you could've just said " i corrected an error in the album sales and added a better source" instead of going completely apeshit --FMSky (talk) 13:56, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Please calm down (continuing along the "appease the freaks that stalk this page" path will only get you blocked). For starters, you didn't really fix the source, just replaced the URL and otherwise left the reference broken; also, does the RIAA depict worldwide sales, or just in the U.S.? If they're worldwide sales, the album sales in the source total 8.85 million, and that's the only definitive figure from the source, so that's what you would write – you don't just guess "over 10 million"; if they're only U.S. sales, you would either say so or not include the information at all until a better source with a definitive number of the band's worldwide sales can be found. 4TheWynne (talk • contribs) 14:25, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

You are not representing album sales in a correct way.

Firstly, you are only taking USA derived sales. According to Nielsen SoundScan, Megadeth has sold 9.2 million copies of its albums in the United States as of 2016. This would be over 10 million by now. Importantly to note, Soundscan ONLY FACTORS SALES FROM MARCH 1991. So, the lions share of Killing, Peace, So far and Rust are not counted. ie their output from 85 - early 91. So they would have sold at least 12 - 15 million in the USA alone.

Now factor in Worldwide sales and you are probably upto 25 - 30 million albums sold.

I will do more research on this and come back to you but, saying "10 million records sold" is a bit misleading really. 2A02:C7C:41D:3000:D8FD:7D22:B879:5994 (talk) 11:57, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

With all that said, that still doesn’t add up to 50 million or even half that. Most american metal bands don’t do that well outside of america, and ither countries do do certifications and megadeath has very few. another ridiculous figure. Im familiar with music industry and pop music history and I can tell you anyone else who is would look at the 50 million figure or even half that suspiciously. Megadeath was successful but they were never on that level to achieve those sales figures you are throwing out there. American sales are well counted for and it is not anything close to 20 million. Nor is the “lion share” of sales happened during the brief five years at the time of release as you claim, sales don’t work like that. These huge figures are only figured through guestimation and if i can be nice about it, also based on scant knowledge of pop music history. I also disagree in using a dubious source like a random sports radio article , that something is better than nothing, that is not a standard that would fly in any academia or encyclopedia communities. Shhsbavavaa (talk) 10:47, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Six Platinum Albums?

I might be missing something, but the RIAA website only lists five of their albums getting platinum (Peace Sells to Youthanasia), with Cryptic Writings only have Gold. The discography page lists CW as having Platinum too. Even if by now CW sold enough to get to the platinum threshold, the source cited still says it's only Gold.GenerallyAcceptable (talk) 00:35, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

it used to say they sold over 60 million . at least its more than halfway to the truth id say. Shhsbavavaa (talk) 11:07, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Kiko's status

Kiko should not be listed as a member. Teemu is the new guitarist, as the website shows.

~ 81.166.107.145 (talk) 81.166.107.145 (talk) 18:30, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

The Megadeth website isn't the best source, but I did find a Blabbermouth article that talks about Kiko leaving the band. [1] David O. Johnson (talk) 21:18, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

How?? 176.89.117.247 (talk) 06:13, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Risk did not go Gold.

Despite this, Risk was certified gold in the United States. [125]

Also The link says nothing About Megadeth at all. 51.37.206.57 (talk) 18:27, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Years active for the band

@Will come will see: Can you explain your rationale? This edit war is getting old. David O. Johnson (talk) 23:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes. Basically Megadeth were formed in 1983 and have been active the whole time. Someone decided to (without sources) claim they were inactive 2002-2003. That may be so, but why mention it? They have been inactive for longer periods considering two or more years passing since studio albums were recorded and no touring activity. --Will come will see (talk) 00:23, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

There's no other time the band has been inactive, looking at the List of Megadeth band members article. David O. Johnson (talk) 12:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)