Talk:Refrigeration

Any serious discussion on refrigeration history should mention the Einstein–Szilard refrigerator

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_refrigerator

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Mobile refrigeration

I suspect this article displaces other possibilities that might have been more helpful. Really quite a shame. -SusanLesch (talk) 15:14, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Artificial and natural refrigerator

new section 43.225.23.30 (talk) 17:58, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Here's how refrigeration was invented ( new Link )

This article blurs the line between fact an fiction. There are to many mentions of people who Did not invent refrigeration as if because somebody claims somebody else tried something once and it never worked that do achieving something somehow is the same as inventing the first working model .... its not.

This page is riddled with opinion & here say & conflation.

James Harrison invented refrigeration and know body before him did. There's your fact.

Look its like me saying im going to invent synthetic producing dark matter machine ( today ) ... Now i have an apple ( green ) a helmet filled with cottage cheese & a bowling ball. 3 pieces of string & some Lube. Big shook my machine did not work & No dark matter ....

But hay according to the way you guys see things, even tho i did not create a working machine or produce any dark matter .... i will forever be known as the person who invented Dark matter because we can use the same lame test for my invention of dark matter ( Not ) in the same way you all claim the likes of William Cullen, Benjamin franklin Albert Einstein ect ect all invented refrigeration when they did not & even if they where trying they still did not.

One day my Dark matter machine made from an apple ( green ) a helmet filled with cottage cheese & a bowling ball. 3 pieces of string & some Lube. a machine that never worked ( can you even call it a machine ) will been seen as the worlds first dark matter machine ( right ) because even tho it never worked way never going to work based on the items used one day when somebody really solves the issue of dark matter i can really on you people to tell the wikiworld how i in-fact invented dark matter machines first with an apple an string ect ect.

Look it is quite simple if you invent a refrigeration device &/or an ice making device & it does not do either such as William Cullen, Benjamin franklin Albert Einstein ect ect than can it be claimed that you invented anything like a refrigerator / freezer. ... NO you cant.

if you start conflating stories with facts then where does it end ....

I just think wikipedia should stick with the facts & the fact is, James Harrison invented refrigeration and know body before him did

james Harrison created a working model & know body else did. All they created was a paper weight / door stopper. If it did not refrigerate then it aint no refrigeration machine.

Where did refrigeration start?

In what world do you all live in where Not inventing something is now the same as having invented it.

While people have been preserving food with natural ice for thousands of years, the creation of artificial cold was a puzzle for many of the great pioneering scientists, including Galileo, Leonardo da Vinci and Robert Boyle. Twilley says Sir Francis Bacon, the English philosopher and early science intellectual, died in 1629 trying to figure out how to artificially create cold, "He was stuffing a chicken full of ice and caught a cold and died," she says. In the 19th and early 20th century, the first cold chain began as a global trade in natural ice.

James Harrison, a Scottish-Australian printer based in Geelong, was the first to build and sell a commercial refrigeration machine.

"He had noticed when he was printing in the summer … that the ink would smudge and [when] he would wipe the type with ether, it evaporated and that would cool the type."

From observing this process of evaporation, Harrison had the idea of how to make ice, Twilley says. Harrison's first ice-making machine began operation in 1851 on the banks of the Barwon River in Geelong. Then a few years later, Harrison created the first commercial ice-making machine for a brewery. Given that it's impossible to make lager without cold temperatures, brewers were some of the biggest consumers of ice, Twilley explains.

And so, we have "beer to thank for refrigeration".

Can somebody please add this link to / article to main page / Reference section> .. ( i don't know how )

[1]https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-08/history-of-refrigeration-cold-chain-nicola-twilley/104614030 61.69.249.15 (talk) 01:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Clean up of article - general content and accrued spam

general content:

Here is the current lede, with problems in strikeout and comments in bold

"Refrigeration is any of various types of cooling of a space, substance, or system to lower and/or maintain its temperature below the ambient one (while the removed heat is ejected to a place of higher temperature). (1 - It does not matter where the heat is transferred to. Refrigeration is only about the removal of heat, period.) Refrigeration is an artificial, or human-made, cooling method.

Refrigeration refers to the process by which energy, in the form of heat, is removed from a low-temperature medium and transferred to a high-temperature medium. (2 - ditto above) (3 - and this whole sentence is a repeat of the above) This work of energy transfer is traditionally driven by mechanical means (whether ice or electromechanical machines), (4 - in what universe is ice a mechanical means) but it can also be driven by heat, magnetism, electricity, laser, or other means."

accrued spam:

As an example of citations added to external sources (spam). Some of these editors have been blocked, but while the headstones have been removed, the bodies are still left.

"The use of refrigerators and walk-in coolers and freezers in kitchens, factories and warehouses [63][64][65][66][67] for storing and processing fruits and vegetables ...

[63] "Heatcraft Refrigeration Products | Heatcraft Worldwide Refrigeration". www.heatcraftrpd.com. Archived from the original on 2020-02-29. Retrieved 2019-12-15.

[64] "Heatcraft Refrigeration Products | Heatcraft Worldwide Refrigeration". www.heatcraftrpd.com. Archived from the original on 2020-02-29. Retrieved 2019-12-15.

[65] "Russell - Walk-In". russell.htpg.com.

[66] "Coldzone - Unit Coolers". coldzone.htpg.com.

[67] "Heatcraft Refrigeration Products | Heatcraft Worldwide Refrigeration". www.heatcraftrpd.com. Archived from the original on 2019-12-15. Retrieved 2019-12-15.

I am planning on starting a cleanup and wanted to get ahead of a bunch of reverts by stating my intentions and noting the talk page on each edit. If anyone has any additional topics for cleanup please let me know here. Also, an admin will put some type of protection on this article after clean up, since it has been the target of so much spam in the past.  • Bobsd •  (talk) 18:22, 17 January 2025 (UTC)